Rom 13:7
7) Pay to all what is owed to them: taxes to whom taxes are owed, revenue to whom revenue is owed, respect to whom respect is owed, honor to whom honor is owed.
And defend freedom around the world 22:54
And wherever you stand on the military, the church, and whatever 24:22
In the ramifications of that, we gather to pray 24:51
We live in a country, like no other country in the world, has more school shootings like we do. 25:06
Lost our moral compass, the breakdown of the family 25:15
We removed prayer form the schools, we have sons and daughter growing up in families that are dys functional 25:28
When we add them all together leads to the results…. 25:36
I pray that common sense could prevail 25:44
To do something to keep our children safe 26:02
Lord, I’m not here to debate but to express deep sorrow 26:07
Lord move into the lives of those who have lost children 26:47
People are going to look into all reasons why this happened, and try to learn from it, but Father we’ll just try to stay away from that to pray for your peace and presence and your hand to stay… Lord would you have your hand upon this nation, to change the course of what we’ve seen over the past few years , could the polarization that we are living with somehow be broken; could we not come together in a new fresh way 27:55
If I could do something to change the direction, I would. Amen 28:45
May God help us to be part of the solution and not part of the problem. 28:51
One of the keys to change in our country 29:01
Begins one person at a time, does it not? 29:06
One family at a time, and it makes its way into a neighborhood and into a schoolyard 29:10
! Corinthians chapter 3. I see very little difference between how you are living and those who do not know Christ are living.
Before Pentecost, the 12 disciples lived in fear because they had no vision or power, or purpose for the future 32:18
After Pentecost, filled with courage and purpose to turn world upside down for Jesus. 32:51
Wouldn’t you love to see this for our church; I know we’re living in the end time folks 33:09
Empowerment: people look at you with total amazement. 33:57
There is credibility problem in today’s church 34:08 No shit.
If… we’ve been transformed, we should be transforming the world 34:51
But we aren’t, are?
An ineffective ‘primary’ faith easily swayed to what the world thinks 35:20
Way to comfortable with the lostness of everyone around us. 35:42
We move from a primary faith to a powerful faith when we relinquish ownership of our lives to God’s Spirit. 36:32
To purify and empower 36:55
The natural man has no appreciation for spiritual things 38:31 They will divide you. They may be refined and intelligent but have no understanding of spiritual things. They are just consumers 39:50
The natural man is unable to comprehend spiritual things 40:04 That has given a sensitivity to and to bridge and minister into their lives instead of building walls. (You are so full of shit.) We must go to where they are. 40:39 Your witness to me Tim, by your words and actions, is that you figure, because I am against nationalism and Christian centralized control of government power that I’m a natural man. You sure about that?
Those who are spiritual can evaluate all things, they understand because they have the mind of Christ. 41:37
The spiritual man is capable of discerning spiritual things 41:54
The spiritual man is not necessarily more intelligent, but can appraise or estimate, assess, discern, things from a biblical, moral, or ethical perspective. 42:17 the natural man does not have this ability
The world is confused on this abortion issue 42:54 Is it? Things are complicated.
Justify the ending of a life, the stopping of a beating heart 43:04. That is, largely, a myth.
Of an innocent baby. I’m all for people having choices 43:08 Rape, incest, ectopic. Lots of disagreement amongst to holy ones Tim. A lot of states no exceptions. Contraception next to go. Many rights we enjoy today are in the ‘prenumbras.’ By Alito’s reasoning, rights for women and non-white people are next in line to be axed.
Say it from a biblical perspective, It’s not my body, my choice; the issue is that abortion stops a beating heart. 43:37
The natural man and woman struggles to see that 43:43. And so enters the issue of who is my brother and sister. War, rape, incest, murder, hopelessness, control, and a lack of mercy…
The natural man cannot see abortion as an ethical and moral issue, they only see it as a personal and legal right. 43:59. Or perhaps it is an issue that is none of your business (in terms of employing government violence to correct?) All of this here assumes the ‘spiritual people’ have the God-given right to use government power to make other people behave in a manner that assuages their own conscience. We are not a theocracy. You are assuming that it is (a theocracy,) and that this assumption is what God wants—us to institute a violent theocracy which oppresses the living to protect those who may live. Chapter and verse? We don’t put our flesh into it, only threat, force, and arrogance. Romans 13:7? Honor what you honor? Respect for whom you respect? Do you not see the damage you’ve done your credibility? You’ve sold yourselves to elitism and power—and call it godly. For the children…
The spiritual man is to be a cause for amazement. 44:37. They bother and baffle the natural man.
I pretty much terrify people 46:17. That is why I’ve been told that I am an ‘agent of Satan,’ because I oppose the nationalistic framework that American Christianity sits in right now. It is a total mistake to suppose non-Christian people are non-moral. Your sermon Tim, strongly implies that. Yeah, there are hedonists out there who don’t care one bit as there are Christians out there who don’t care one whit about those they regard as being lesser than them. People are people. Some good, some bad. My initial advice, Tim, is to not put into the church’s head that they, because they go through the motions, are not inherently morally superior to ‘the others’ because the church, Tim, has been seduced by power. The power to do ‘good’ things. The will to power is morality to the Christian Right. We are lost in this. And that is why we are so divided. (And will I succumb, as a member of the minority position, to the desire to submit and fall in line? No.) That is why we’ve lost credibility. Millions, like me, are leaving Tim. Just as you cut me loose, without argument or consideration (but with a threat, how cute,) so goes many who cannot reconcile the grabbing of political power with the serving of Christ.
I think there should be something about us that is winsome. 46:40
There is something about them… 47:00 Do you not see, in the guise of all you think is holy, that those formerly within the church who are now leaving, that there is nothing charming, or moral, in the likes of Trump, Gosar, or Greene? There is nothing winsome in a program of lies. Nothing redeeming in white supremacy. It is woven into who we are, and this is what the world sees in us because we will not separate from White Christian Nationalism and its promise of power. You simply demand that the unrighteous be as you as are. You refused to even offer the dignity of an opposing moral argument. Why would you? You are superior.
Is the way I live my life a cause for amazement? 47:15
If being called a weird dude who ‘marches to another drum’ (has literally been said to me) counts, then yes. I’ve been criticized for agonizing over what is right. Do I amaze people for my manners, appearance and decorum? Nope.
Do I sense power and insight in our daily life? 47:31
I claim no supernatural insight. But I can recognize an evil and dishonest man when I see one. And despite whatever practical reasons to forward the faith are given to follow such a man, I will refuse. The ends do not justify the means.
Do I see the world differently than the world sees itself? 47:37. In world comprised of billions of people, how does it see itself? That is an assumptive question Tim which allows the parishioner to image ‘how the world sees itself’ for him or herself. The shortsightedness and ignorant of this question which reinforces our own ‘right’ view of things, to the exclusion of ‘the others,’ is all too common. Aww, but doesn’t sound so righteous?
Are my desires, values, and priorities noticeably different from the world’s? 47:45 Again, nationalism is assumed. It permeates everything. Nothing Tim said challenged the rightness of the desire, values, and priorities the machine of the Christian Right has put firmly into our heads.
You quarrel with one another; doesn’t that prove you are controlled by your sinful nature. 50:27 It all stick with the sermons about Genesis 3 & 4 about sin separating relationships. I am the carnal man. What decides? Authority. Of course.
Double-mindedness. 51:32- 55:05 Carnality remains a powerful influence. Difference between spirit-filled and spirit-controlled. What can you expect from the carnal Christian?
Immaturity 56:12 Caught up in what they think rather than what the scriptures teach. Jealousy and strife. Quarrelsome.
Spiritual people sow seeds of peace and harmony.
Carnal people do the opposite sowing division and doubt. 58:37 The worst is a ‘judgmental attitude.’ Once again, fall into line. Do not question the leadership. Do not question what we, the authorities, say is right.
